From 84b40cc476463a8deb22ba5a091373ebd110b80e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Andrew Engelbrecht Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 12:54:17 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] added Amin Bandali's slides --- ...libreplanet-2022-net-beyond-web-slides.txt | 311 ++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 311 insertions(+) create mode 100644 Amin_Bandali/libreplanet-2022-net-beyond-web-slides.txt diff --git a/Amin_Bandali/libreplanet-2022-net-beyond-web-slides.txt b/Amin_Bandali/libreplanet-2022-net-beyond-web-slides.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..3e9724f --- /dev/null +++ b/Amin_Bandali/libreplanet-2022-net-beyond-web-slides.txt @@ -0,0 +1,311 @@ +the net beyond the web + +libreplanet 2022 + +bandali@gnu.org + +goal: share some thoughts, spark discussion + +net ?= web + +[inter]net: interconnected network of networks + +where + +the networks and the devices comprising them +use tcp/ip to communicate with each other + +web: is part of the internet + +consists of websites, like + + https://www.gnu.org + +which consist of webpages, like + + https://www.gnu.org/gnu/about-gnu.html + +which are written in html + +html + css + + + + +... + javascript + +web initially a method/protocol for sharing + +documents, information, media, ... + + +example: the first website (still accessible): + +http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html + +aside: shout out and thanks to + +wayback machine - https://web.archive.org + +early on: + +small websites consisting entirely of text + +and a bit later images/photos as well + +joan stark (jgs) + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Stark + + +Veronica Karlsson (vk) + +https://web.archive.org/web/20160319004113/http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/ + +javascript + +[before] javascript: + +webpages were fully static + +this was not desired by web developers + +netscape decided to add a scripting language +to their web browser, netscape navigator + +netscape hired Brendan Eich to embed the +scheme language into their browser + +yay!! + +right? + +... right?? + +nestscape collaborated with sun microsystems +to embed java into their browser + +netscape management decided the new scripting +language must have a syntax similar to java +rather than scheme + +Eich designed and implemented javascript in 10 days + +no shortage of interesting takes and/or criticisms +of javascript as a language, and its impacts + +"the birth & death of javascript" and "wat" +talks by Gary Bernhardt + + +other interesting reads, such as + +https://wiki.haskell.org/The_JavaScript_Problem +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#Security +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_security +https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=javascript + +text --> multimedia --> ... programs that run on your machine + +... and they are virtually everywhere! + +the wwworst app store +by Alexandre Oliva + +https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/wwworst-app-store.html + +why are we okay with this, when we know we can do better? + +how gnu/linux (and other unix-like) distributions +handle distributing of software to their users + +we need similar control/trust/consent in the browser + +and a shift in the norms and status quo among web developers + +for instance by creating and documenting publicly-accessible +api endpoints, so that anyone could write and use a custom +application for communicating with their website/service + +"taking back the web with haketilo" +libreplanet 2022 (day 1) talk +by Nicholas Johnson and Wojciech Kosior + +https://libreplanet.org/2022/speakers/#5790 +https://hydrillabugs.koszko.org/projects/haketilo + +what about other protocols? + +gopher, gemini, spartan, ... + +http(s) + +one idea: + +plain text + some rules + convenience (via extension) + + +some *bold* text, _emphasized_ text, + +a dashed title +-------------- + +[ image-filename.png ] + and a simple caption + +a link to the page + +> a tiny block of +> quoted text + + (message "and a 4-space indented code block") + (call-interactively #'butterfly) ; M-x butterfly + + (eqn "sqrt(b^2-4ac)") + + (eqn + (sqrt (- (expt b 2) (* 4 a c)))) + + \sqrt{b^2-4ac} + +do we want a programming language? + +maybe, maybe not. if we do, + +1. be used only when really needed + +2. code blocks be clearly & freely licensed + +3. any code executed only with user's consent, + potentially along with a permission system + that gives the user fine control over what + functions can execute for each site + +user should have ultimate control +over how documents look + +http does not have to be the only transport + +people have been thinking about or experimenting +with other transport methods/protocols + +https://alexschroeder.ch/wiki/2022-02-08_NNCP_distributed_text + +gopher://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/0/~solderpunk/phlog/low-budget-p2p-content-distribution-with-git.txt +https://gopher.tildeverse.org/zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/0/~solderpunk/phlog/low-budget-p2p-content-distribution-with-git.txt + +what to do? how to help? + +as a user: + +- use freedom- and privacy-enhancing + browser extensions such as: + gnu.org/s/librejs, jshelter.org, + haketilo, and ublock origin + + (see "taking back the web with haketilo" + by Nicholas and Wojciech for a list of + even more such extensions) + +- say no to nonfree javascript + "saying no even once helps" + https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/saying-no-even-once.html + +- check out and participate in + small web or small net initiatives, + as well as tilde or pubnix communities + +as a developer: + +- release and label your javascript as free software + https://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/free-your-javascript.html + +- check out protocols like gopher and gemini, + see what they have to offer, and think about + what an http-based approach could look like + +- contribute: + - other browsers like luakit, netsurf, and visurf + - help maintain liberated and privacy-enhanced + versions of firefox like gnu icecat and abrowser + +- don't use javascript unless you really need to. + when you do, please license it freely, and apply + principles of 'progressive enhancement' to make + sure your website works without javascript and css + + if you happen to work on either side of the + current web browser duopoly, or work on web + standards, please pause a moment and consider: + + do we really *need* all the new complexity? + + 12 years ago, mozilla removed support for + gopher on the grounds of reducing complexity + and attack vectors. do the current web and + its browsers resemble anything but complexity? + + firefox and chromium are now each more than + 30 million lines of code, on the same order + of magnitude an in fact currently larger than + the kernel linux. new code and complexity + keeps being added, while at the same time, + user freedom, control, and often privacy seem + to be gradually lessened and eroded. + + let us try to do better by us all :) + +the net i'd like to see beyond the current web + +1. does not facilitate tracking users + +2. has freedom, control, and consent built in + +3. is in many ways simpler, has a reasonable and + finite scope, and has several server and client + implementations + + +thanks! + +bandali@gnu.org + +references +---------- + +http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html +https://web.archive.org +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Stark +https://web.archive.org/web/20160319004113/http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/ +https://wiki.haskell.org/The_JavaScript_Problem +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#Security +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_security +https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=javascript +https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/wwworst-app-store.html +https://libreplanet.org/2022/speakers/#5790 +https://hydrillabugs.koszko.org/projects/haketilo +https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html +https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html +https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/freejs +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol) +https://gemini.circumlunar.space +https://spartan.mozz.us +http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/000574 +http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/rss30 +https://alexschroeder.ch/wiki/2018-12-01_Thinking_about_the_real_RSS_3.0 +https://alexschroeder.ch/wiki/2022-02-08_NNCP_distributed_text +gopher://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/0/~solderpunk/phlog/low-budget-p2p-content-distribution-with-git.txt +https://gopher.tildeverse.org/zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/0/~solderpunk/phlog/low-budget-p2p-content-distribution-with-git.txt +https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/saying-no-even-once.html +https://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/free-your-javascript.html +https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html +https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388195 +https://drewdevault.com/2020/03/18/Reckless-limitless-scope.html +https://drewdevault.com/2021/09/11/visurf-announcement.html +https://drewdevault.com/2021/09/27/Let-distros-do-their-job.html +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_enhancement + +https://kelar.org/~bandali/talks/libreplanet-2022-net-beyond-web.html +gopher://kelar.org/0/~bandali/talks/libreplanet-2022-net-beyond-web.txt + +marked with cc0 and dedicated to the public domain -- 2.25.1